From Menno.Willemse@johnguest.co.uk Thu Mar 2 10:11:19 2006 From: Menno.Willemse@johnguest.co.uk (Willemse, Menno) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:11:19 -0000 Subject: [Infrastructures] Re: Infrastructures.Org rework Message-ID: <8200A0D776D0564CA36D518351510993014E3C91@edison.jg_servers.com> Hello World, From: Steve Traugott > Everyone else; the question I have for you is this: Would you be > willing to contribute to a wiki or other community-edited repository > of documents which serve as design patterns and RFC-like standards > documents, in which, by contributing, you might be listed in a > "contributors" section, but would not retain copyright in your > contribution? Why not bring the documents under the GNU Free Documentation License? http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html It will allow you to publish a book based on the documents, and basically do whatever you said you wanted to do with it. It won't stop anyone else from doing the same, though. So if you are of the opinion that if anyone is going to make money of this, it'll be you, then it's not the license to use. I must say that I quite like the idea of a community-edited repository on this subject. I'm currently designing/building a Unix infrastructure here, and I got several useful ideas off the infrastructures website. I'd be quite willing to supply some patterns/antipatterns to the mix (my employer allowing, of course). Cheers, Menno Willemse -- Menno Willemse - IT Department | "Perilous to all of us are the devices of an | art deeper than we ourselves possess." | - Gandalf the Grey Internet communications are not secure and therefore John Guest companies do not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of John Guest companies. From avbidder@fortytwo.ch Thu Mar 2 10:50:34 2006 From: avbidder@fortytwo.ch (Adrian von Bidder) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:50:34 +0100 Subject: [Infrastructures] Re: Infrastructures.Org rework In-Reply-To: <8200A0D776D0564CA36D518351510993014E3C91@edison.jg_servers.com> References: <8200A0D776D0564CA36D518351510993014E3C91@edison.jg_servers.com> Message-ID: <200603021150.39246.avbidder@fortytwo.ch> --nextPart3555040.KQzzSz5DGH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 02 March 2006 11:11, Willemse, Menno wrote: > Why not bring the documents under the GNU Free Documentation License? > http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html Note that some perceive the GFDL as problematic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml http://home.twcny.rr.com/nerode/neroden/fdl.html (But this is getting extremely off-topic - just wanted to make you aware of= =20 these issues if you aren't already. Let's not discuss licenses here.) cheers =2D- vbi =2D-=20 Today is Sweetmorn, the 61st day of Chaos in the YOLD 3172 --nextPart3555040.KQzzSz5DGH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: get my key from http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/92082481 iKcEABECAGcFAkQGzf9gGmh0dHA6Ly9mb3J0eXR3by5jaC9sZWdhbC9ncGcvZW1h aWwuMjAwMjA4MjI/dmVyc2lvbj0xLjUmbWQ1c3VtPTVkZmY4NjhkMTE4NDMyNzYw NzFiMjVlYjcwMDZkYTNlAAoJECqqZti935l6k8YAniz3eVCLHNuvLJxfeFMoIqSU Zz0hAJ9wd0fYRAQIUzj2mvxwN1z5j/hEQA== =/Dxk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3555040.KQzzSz5DGH-- From marc.chiarini@tufts.edu Fri Mar 31 19:50:04 2006 From: marc.chiarini@tufts.edu (Marc Chiarini (Tufts)) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:50:04 -0500 Subject: [Infrastructures] Testing general system functionality via user simulation Message-ID: <442D87EC.8010401@tufts.edu> Hello All, I am trying to analyze program dependencies in Linux. Does anyone know of any suite/testbed/infrastructure that would allow me to create "automated virtual users" that would run on real (or virtual systems), exercising various large subsets of software in a reasonable, if not realistic fashion? I'm not sure that simulation of the systems and users will get me what I want. I think I need something that sits on a machine and pretends to be something like a user, running various applications in different classes (I will settle for non-GUI ;). There needs to be at least some minor variability to these virtual users' behaviors. It is not important to my research that they be anywhere near realistic, as long as they are executing commands with reasonable parameters. Another way that I might accomplish part of my goal is to utilize a test suite that runs (with a variety, but obviously not all parameters) as many non-root commands on a system as possible. It seems that autoconf provides a limited infrastructure for doing something like this, but I haven't investigated it thoroughly. If any or all of this seems laughable, please laugh away. Sometimes it's all about the comedy. Regards, Marc