From jgonzalez.openinput@gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 11:19:54 2006
From: jgonzalez.openinput@gmail.com (Jose Gonzalez Gomez)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:19:54 +0100
Subject: [Infrastructures] OS configuration management: cfengine? puppet? maybe other?
Message-ID: <306bf010601030319l260d5e15j@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi there,

I was starting to read cfengine documentation when I came across puppet (
http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet). The tool seems to be an evolutio=
n
of cfengine, with apparently an easier and more understandable language, an=
d
a lot more user oriented in the sense that it intends to be a comunnity
project instead of an investigation project without public repository and
bug database (at least that's what they tell you at their web). Before
choosing one or the other, I would like to hear from the list, if somebody
has any experience with puppet, and how it compares to cfengine, and which
one you recommend.

Best regards
Jose

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Hi there,<br><br>I was starting to read cfengine documentation when I came =
across puppet (<a href=3D"http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet">http://=
reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet</a>). The tool seems to be an evolution o=
f cfengine, with apparently an easier and more understandable language, and=
 a lot more user oriented in the sense that it intends to be a comunnity pr=
oject instead of an investigation project without public repository and bug=
 database (at least that's what they tell you at their web). Before choosin=
g one or the other, I would like to hear from the list, if somebody has any=
 experience with puppet, and how it compares to cfengine, and which one you=
 recommend.
<br><br>Best regards<br>Jose<br>

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From stevegt@TerraLuna.Org  Fri Jan 20 07:48:56 2006
From: stevegt@TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:48:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Infrastructures] ISconf 4.2.8.212: Maintenance Release
Message-ID: <20060120074856.EEDFF24A42@spirit.terraluna.org>

Hi All,

I'm pleased to announce the release of ISconf 4.2.8.212:

    http://trac.t7a.org/isconf/pub/isconf-4.2.8.212.tar.gz

This maintenance release fixes several hangs having to do with
long-running exec processes, adds integrity checks on file transfers,
and makes several other performance and reliability improvements.
You'll want to upgrade to it.  See http://trac.t7a.org/isconf/timeline
for change history.

While the regression test suite continues to grow, I'm also using
4.2.8 to migrate our Xen clusters to Xen 3.0 and the 2.6 kernel; this
has provided plenty of useful exposure.  As always, I'm indebted to
those of you who have been sending mail, bugs, and patches from your
own experiences.

There are still known bugs in the 4.2.8 series that aren't fixed, but
are either minor or have workarounds.  As I receive feedback I'll
continue to balance 4.2.8 maintenance against the 4.3 series -- some
of the remaining bugs are in code which 4.3 deprecates.  Feel free to
let me know what you would prioritize, and I'll factor that in.

The 4.3.1 work, continuing, focuses on the TCP mesh code.  This will
give us the ability to retire UDP, simplify firewall rules, and
provides the foundation we'll need later for reporting, asset
management, and monitoring.  Look for 4.3.2 as the stable release of
this next version, and see http://trac.t7a.org/isconf/roadmap for
details.

Take Care,

Steve
---
Stephen G. Traugott  (KG6HDQ)
UNIX/Linux Infrastructure Architect, TerraLuna LLC
stevegt@TerraLuna.Org 
http://www.stevegt.com -- http://Infrastructures.Org



From stevegt@TerraLuna.Org  Mon Jan 23 19:37:57 2006
From: stevegt@TerraLuna.Org (Steve Traugott)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:37:57 -0800
Subject: [Infrastructures] Any AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX people?
Message-ID: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>

Hi All,

Does anyone have access to an AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX machine with python
installed right now?  If you do, could you start up python, try to
load the threading library, and let me know what happens?  

$ python
>> import threading

That will either silently work, or tell you there is no threading
module.

The reason I need to know this is that I'm considering starting to use
threading in ISconf, and when last I checked, HP/UX threading wasn't
working in python, and there were some questions about AIX and IRIX.
It's hard to tell what the current status is, and while this poll is
informal it might be enlightening.

Bonus points if you can tell me the O/S version and anything about the
version of python on the machine; did it come from the vendor?  

Thanks,

Steve
-- 
Stephen G. Traugott  (KG6HDQ)
UNIX/Linux Infrastructure Architect, TerraLuna LLC
stevegt@TerraLuna.Org 
http://www.stevegt.com -- http://Infrastructures.Org

From smkelly@rooster.creighton.edu  Mon Jan 23 20:48:40 2006
From: smkelly@rooster.creighton.edu (Sean Kelly)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:48:40 -0600
Subject: [Infrastructures] Any AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX people?
In-Reply-To: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>
References: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>
Message-ID: <20060123204840.GA76542@rooster.creighton.edu>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:37:57AM -0800, Steve Traugott wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone have access to an AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX machine with python
> installed right now?  If you do, could you start up python, try to
> load the threading library, and let me know what happens?  
> 
> $ python
> >> import threading
> 
> That will either silently work, or tell you there is no threading
> module.

On HP-UX 11.11 on a HP9000/800...

$ python
Python 2.3.3 (#3, Feb 26 2004, 15:52:32) [C] on hp-ux11
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import threading
>>> 

> The reason I need to know this is that I'm considering starting to use
> threading in ISconf, and when last I checked, HP/UX threading wasn't
> working in python, and there were some questions about AIX and IRIX.
> It's hard to tell what the current status is, and while this poll is
> informal it might be enlightening.
> 
> Bonus points if you can tell me the O/S version and anything about the
> version of python on the machine; did it come from the vendor?  

Compiled myself. Does HP offer a python depot?

-- 
Sean M. Kelly
Unix Systems Architect
Division of Information Technology
Creighton University
(402) 280-2264
AIM: smkellyg5

From bob@proulx.com  Tue Jan 24 05:49:10 2006
From: bob@proulx.com (Bob Proulx)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:49:10 -0700
Subject: [Infrastructures] Any AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX people?
In-Reply-To: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>
References: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>
Message-ID: <20060124054910.GA25192@dementia.proulx.com>

Steve Traugott wrote:
> Does anyone have access to an AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX machine with python
> installed right now?  If you do, could you start up python, try to
> load the threading library, and let me know what happens?  
> 
> $ python
> >> import threading

On HP-UX 11.00, 11.11, and 11.23, all the same:

  Python 2.4.2 (#1, Nov  2 2005, 13:07:14) 
  [GCC 3.3.2] on hp-ux11
  Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
  >>> import threading
  >>> 

Locally compiled.

> Bonus points if you can tell me the O/S version and anything about the
> version of python on the machine; did it come from the vendor?  

HP-UX does not supply python.  If available it must be locally
installed.  Same for Ruby.

Bob

From smkelly@rooster.creighton.edu  Tue Jan 24 15:15:11 2006
From: smkelly@rooster.creighton.edu (Sean Kelly)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:15:11 -0600
Subject: [Infrastructures] Any AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX people?
In-Reply-To: <20060124054910.GA25192@dementia.proulx.com>
References: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org> <20060124054910.GA25192@dementia.proulx.com>
Message-ID: <20060124151511.GA80891@rooster.creighton.edu>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 10:49:10PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> HP-UX does not supply python.  If available it must be locally
> installed.  Same for Ruby.

Actually, they do! It is part of the HP-UX Internet Express for HP-UX 11i
package:
http://h20293.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=HPUXIEXP1123

I'll see about installing that Python somewhere and seeing if it has
threading... Might take a while though.

-- 
Sean M. Kelly
Unix Systems Architect
Division of Information Technology
Creighton University
(402) 280-2264
AIM: smkellyg5

From wcooley@nakedape.cc  Wed Jan 25 21:20:51 2006
From: wcooley@nakedape.cc (Wil Cooley)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:20:51 -0800
Subject: [Infrastructures] Any AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX people?
In-Reply-To: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>
References: <20060123193757.GE500@terraluna.org>
Message-ID: <1138224051.6097.23.camel@willow.odshp.com>

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On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 11:37 -0800, Steve Traugott wrote:
> Hi All,
>=20
> Does anyone have access to an AIX, HP/UX, or IRIX machine with python
> installed right now?  If you do, could you start up python, try to
> load the threading library, and let me know what happens? =20
>=20
> $ python
> >> import threading

$ python
Python 2.2 (#1, Feb 22 2005, 16:59:34) [C] on aix5
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import threading
>>>=20

$ rpm -qi python
Name        : python                       Relocations: /opt/freeware=20
Version     : 2.2                               Vendor: (none)
Release     : 5                             Build Date: Tue Feb 22 15:05:40=
 2005
Install date: Fri Sep 23 07:29:29 2005      Build Host: emperor.aixpclab.au=
stin.ibm.com
Group       : Development/Languages         Source RPM: python-2.2-5.src.rp=
m
Size        : 14067203                         License: Modified CNRI Open =
Source License
URL         : http://www.python.org
Summary     : An interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming lang=
uage.

$ oslevel -r
5300-02

HTH,

Wil
--=20
Wil Cooley <wcooley@nakedape.cc>
Naked Ape Consulting, Ltd

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